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Feb 01, marissa sammy rated it really liked it. But I decided it was time and picked up this book.captive8.smarthotspots.com/6440-hombres-guapos-solteros.php
On the Farm: Robert William Pickton and the Tragic Story of Vancouver's Missing Women
The account is, of course, heartbreaking and chilling and infuriating. I was aware of the epidemic of Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, but I couldn't have fathomed the depth of indifference and outright negation of their safety from the VPD. It's horrendous reading about disappearance after disappearance being dismissed with suppositions t I avoided delving too deeply into the Pickton murders, seeing as I've lived and worked near the DTES.
It's horrendous reading about disappearance after disappearance being dismissed with suppositions that the girls must be "out partying" or even "gone to Mexico on vacation". For me, the Vancouver Police were on a level with Robert Pickton in how they thought of these women: as pigs, not people, who brought their own slaughter on themselves. On a personal level, it was extremely discomfiting to be reading about a serial killer and recognize all the settings and locations and know that this was happening all around me.
Cameron does a good job of getting across the visceral, mindless horror without sensationalizing the sexualized torture of the women's deaths, for which I was grateful. This is a book that would serve every Vancouverite to read. Though I believe this is one of the most important stories in Canadian history and highlights a major injustice to a neglected segment of our society, I was not a huge fan of the book overall. I felt the author started out strong and really drew me into the landscape and history of the Pickton's and the surrounding community.
However, once the author gets into the sequence of missing women, it seems as though she was bogged down by the scale of Pickton's murders and defaulted to a very academic, Though I believe this is one of the most important stories in Canadian history and highlights a major injustice to a neglected segment of our society, I was not a huge fan of the book overall. However, once the author gets into the sequence of missing women, it seems as though she was bogged down by the scale of Pickton's murders and defaulted to a very academic, sterile style of writing.
The book is just far too long with much of the information repeated over and over and too much emphasis on random details that had no bearing on the story ie. Despite their grossness, the Picktons had plenty of people constantly hanging about, with wild parties thrown where women attendees often experienced assaults and attempted rapes. Whilst piecing all this together, unlike the Vancouver Police Department, Cameron devotes the rest of the time to the women who lost their lives, giving glimpses of who they were and how their loss affected those around them, rather than reducing them to nothing more than a name and a body, as well as taking lots of opportunity to lay bare just what the hell the police were up to instead of their jobs posturing and infighting, the pricks.
On The Farm is an excellent book on a truly appalling person, and a damning indictment of the Police Department - I hope that those in charge during the Pickton era have had seriously miserable retirements and that their shame keeps them from sleeping at night. Jun 23, Nat rated it it was amazing. And most certainly not because I wanted to put it down!!! Robert William Pickton is one of three sibling born in western canada.
He admitted to killing 49 prostitutes, saying he was trying to get to Right from the start of the missing woman, the start of the investigation task force, the trial, and the verdict. Also of those such as the police and other criminal justice professionals. But I loved it. Too often are we told all the details of the offender and sometimes that can be seen as disrespectful to victims. This book almost focuses on the victims a fair bit more than the offender I believe, and there are many.
We learn who they are as people; where they grew up, their struggles, and their families. They were loved and missed, and in many instances they had children who continue to love and miss them. It was great to read about the police, detectives, and lawyers who were also involved. Read about the politics and hardships that they face. And if you choose to read this, you might agree. Overall, this book was wonderful. Stevie does an excellent job of making us notice the victims.
Feel for the victims. View all 4 comments. Dec 04, Jules Goud rated it really liked it Shelves: mystery-murder-and-all-that-jazz , school-reads , nonfiction , real-crime. An excellent book on the crimes of Robert Pickton. An excellent book about the handling of the investigation by the police. An excellent book about the investigation and the victims.
That is my favourite thing about this book. Cameron didn't forget about the victims. Everyone has no problem remembering the murderer, but when it comes to those who are murdered, nobody can name names. Cameron talked about each women and went deeper than just saying that they were prostitutes. She dug into their liv An excellent book on the crimes of Robert Pickton. She dug into their lives and the things that they went through as a child.
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They weren't just prostitutes and drug addicts. They were people too and Cameron makes sure that we know that. I also liked the fact that this novel focused more about the people involved with the case and the investigation itself than the preliminary hearing. Here, we are observes of the investigation of his property, the lives of the women and Pickton himself.
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The way that Cameron has written it makes it seem like you are actually there with the investigators, with Pickton and with the women. She did a fabulous job writing this novel. Some of the material is very disturbing, and most is very sad. Some people will be able to continue on in this novel, others won't. I found that Cameron did a great job of respecting the women that had to go through this unbelievable ordeal.
I find that it is very disrespectful to try and sensor anything that these women had to go through. I believe that Cameron did a great job showing what these women were put through, whether they were alive at the time or not. Cameron gave those women the respect that they deserve.
Definitely a book you need to read if you are interested in the Pickton case. I always hate using the word interesting in these cases because it is a horrific crime. However, Cameron's book "On the Farm" is definitely one of the best resources for information on the man who says he's just a pig farmer. Oct 11, Thebookmistress rated it really liked it Shelves: tpl. The book is very detailed, not in the gross details on the women's deaths, but in life - Picton's childhood, women's paths to Vancouver's East Side, police work to catch a killer.
I know a lot more about the case now. And yet, somehow, it was not a satisfactory experience. My issue, I think, is with what wasn't it the book. First of all, the story is somehow pointless. This may not be the fault of the book, but of the situation.
There isn't a conclusion or a thesis, even the putative one of offi The book is very detailed, not in the gross details on the women's deaths, but in life - Picton's childhood, women's paths to Vancouver's East Side, police work to catch a killer. There isn't a conclusion or a thesis, even the putative one of officials ignoring women's disappearances. Some police officers ignored the situation of the missing women, and some worked on it for years. The VPD is not a bad guy, even if some officers were wildly incompetent.
Cameron's repeated statements about women's friends noticing their absences are contradicted by her own stories of other "disappeared" women being found healthy and safe years later and miles away. I was also wondering about the investigation process with respect to other potential suspects there were several hundred at one point and narrowing down the field to just Picton.
How did they decide that his brother or the Hell's Angels or his female procurers weren't responsible? This wasn't very clear. It seems we had a hundred suspects and then we had one, without a clear path between the two. The book is great for figuring out all the players and exactly what happened. I think it just let me down for figuring out the why and the bigger overall picture was lost in the details.
Apr 27, Aaron Wilkinson rated it liked it. The book does a good job of filling in the blanks left by the publication ban placed over the proceedings but doesn't give readers familiar with the case any further insight into the man who could be Canada's most prolific serial killer. Stevie Cameron takes great pains in introducing her readers to the victims - a process I found painful to read.
Frankly, I found these details rather boring and didn't need to have the women fleshed out. Media covergae leading up to the original trual made it clear that Pickton had preyed on the drug addicted prostitutes haunting Vancouver's Downtown East Side, using hundreds of pages to illustrate their inherent worth was unnecessary.
Robert William Pickton and the Tragic Story of Vancouver's Missing Women
Any murdered human being, no matter their sex, circumstances or occupation, is a tragedy plain and simple. More focus on the bunglings and infighting of so-called law enforcement officials would have made for a more sensational read. Still, I did read the whole book even though it wasn't the page turner I expected. Dec 30, Jenna rated it liked it Shelves: last-podcast-on-the-left.
This book has a lot of good detail, but really needed some editing. While I can respect that Cameron put years into this book and learned so, so many details, her editor should have been sharper about letting some of them go. Do I really need to know how one of the attorneys met his wife? Because the timeline meanders a bit, some pieces of information or witness statements are shared three times, in just as much detail. While it was important to humanize the victims, the stories also all blended This book has a lot of good detail, but really needed some editing.
While it was important to humanize the victims, the stories also all blended together at times, making it hard to feel as connected to them by the halfway point of this very long book. I skimmed more than I like to in a book, but I didn't feel like I was missing anything crucial to the narrative. I read this because it was recommended as source material for the Willie Pickton episodes of Last Podcast on The Left. I began it on a long plane ride home, put it down for a month and a half, and finished it in a marathon at the end of December, to squeeze one more book in before the end of Though if I'd been smart, I would have left just a little to finish for an easy first completion of !
I became interested in this case because I came across some mention of it and found it funny that this wasn't something everyone was talking about as it was happening over the last 10 years. It's funny how ignorant we as Americans are about our neighbors to the north. Being the most prolific serial killer in North American history, you'd think this'd be front page news, and yet, because it happened in Canada, most Americans could give a rats ass.
Regarding the book, if I had to describe it in a p I became interested in this case because I came across some mention of it and found it funny that this wasn't something everyone was talking about as it was happening over the last 10 years. Regarding the book, if I had to describe it in a phrase, I'd say it's thorough to a fault. Cameron was exhaustive in her investigation, and for some people I'm sure that's great, but there were tangents she took on ancillary characters and subplots that I didn't feel were necessary, making the book longer than it needed to be. I was able to do that in many cases because witnesses came and testified about when they last saw this person and what she was like.
It was very difficult to read all that. How were you able to go back to it day after day? I had to put the book down several times. It's so new. I think a lot of families have been terrific. It think some of them are shocked. I mean last night I had dinner with Rita Ens who was the victim services worker whom I adore. She was shocked by what I wrote about her background.
She said she wasn't expecting to see that in the book. That she was sold for a bottle of beer, that she was sexually abused by her father. Well, I just wrote it straight. I did this book with a lot of love. And I think people know that. It's already public on the website. Wayne Leng [friend of Sarah de Vries, who disappeared in ] is responsible for much of that. Anybody can read that stuff. What do you think of the DTES today? What is the greatest barrier to safety for women working there? Poverty is terrible. And lack of drug treatment. They get sent to these recovery houses in Surrey or wherever after they've been through detox-if they can get into detox.
Millions of dollars have been poured into the DTES but the lack of rehabilitation centres, the lack of treatment, the lack of good detox, the lack of good housing They still live in these hotels where if you want to go visit them you have to pay the guy at the front ten bucks. Nothing's changed. I haven't got an answer for that.
It is a community. We have a DTES all right but it's in tiny little pockets all over the city. I haven't seen much change in Vancouver. I see the change in the developers, because there is such great housing potential there. And maybe that's its great hope, that they demolish it because it's too valuable for poor people. And if they get rid of it I don't know what's worst, getting rid of it or keeping it because it's a community. I'm very torn. More people are reading rabble. Our main supporters are people and organizations -- like you. This is why we need your help. You are what keep us sustainable.
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It really is that simple. When the people who visit rabble care enough to contribute a bit then it works for everyone. Make a donation today. View the discussion thread. You are here Home On The Farm gives voice to Pickton's victims Please chip in to support rabble's election coverage. Helen Polychronakos. October 22, On the Farm's thoroughly researched portrayal of Pickton's modus operandi and of the women's final days makes up for decades of silence. What was your biggest challenge in researching the Pickton case? What kinds of evidence did the voir-dire exclude?
No, but given what I'd gone through there was no way I was going to ask them anyway. People have to know that they were people's daughter and sisters. What do the women's families think about the book? Do you ever worry that these stories might be exploitative?
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I worked hard to make sure that didn't happen. None of the families were upset that you were revealing so much information? What's their greatest hope? While Cameron is to be applauded for providing such a meticulous timeline of events, we don't get a sense of the how and the why.
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Ultimately, the reality is much more grey than black and white; both the RCMP and the Vancouver Police Department made mistakes, some attributable to personal conflicts and a corresponding failure to use the best data available, some due to inadequate resources, and some due to the structural difficulties imposed by having multiple police forces in the metropolitan Vancouver region, without any overarching system of command and accountability.
Similarly, while the detailed histories of the missing women bring a humanity to their often unhappy lives, the trajectory of their fall into drug addiction and prostitution is not made sense of, except in relatively simplistic terms: "Janet began living with a boyfriend in Vancouver who was taking hard drugs; before long he had persuaded her to try them too, and the next step was prostitution to pay for their addictions. By default, Cameron appears to ascribe to a view of drug addiction and prostitution that is deceptively simple: Using drugs will make you an addict, and prostitution lurks just around the corner for those who indulge.
The role of criminal law, with its prohibitions against the most vulnerable - street prostitutes and injectable drug users - is never examined, despite the reality that these prohibitions are a crucial part of the backdrop that created the portrait of Willie Pickton and the missing women.
Unable to sell themselves with any measure of safety, and forced to pay exorbitant prices for drugs that numbed their pain, they became the victims of a predatory monster. Should you buy this book and read it? I will likely add it to an upcoming course reading list - not because it is the definitive work on the tragedy of the missing women, but because it begins a very useful conversation with a good deal of compelling evidence.
Neil Boyd is professor and associate director of the School of Criminology at Simon Fraser University and the author of seven books. This is a space where subscribers can engage with each other and Globe staff. Non-subscribers can read and sort comments but will not be able to engage with them in any way. Click here to subscribe. If you would like to write a letter to the editor, please forward it to letters globeandmail. Readers can also interact with The Globe on Facebook and Twitter. Read our community guidelines here. Customer help.
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